Question:
Obama's birth certificate?
Desdamona
2009-01-10 09:03:03 UTC
Look, I accept that I lost, I can embrace Obama, wish him well. What I don't get is that his birth certificate is sealed in the State of Hawaii. Why is this? It has to have something to do with where he was born. Hawaii became a state in 1959, so, he's ok, but if he were not born in the United States, this is a real injustice to all Americans. Is it me?
Twelve answers:
KylieV
2009-01-10 09:13:53 UTC
Its NOT you, it concerns a lot of people. What bothers me about it is that he spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on attorneys to keep getting these suits against him dropped when all he had to do was request the birth certificate and put an end to it. It has nothing to do with people having his private information, all they are going to find on a BC is basic where you were born and how much you weighed stuff. He is a fraud and he is hiding something. I think the SCOTUS would have heard the cases but they know he is ineligible and they would have to disqualify him which would cause a civil war in America, his supporters would freak out, it would be like really bad take of Dawn of the Dead if Obama didn't get to take office.
desertviking_00
2009-01-10 10:08:56 UTC
It's you. And even if he had been born in the Territory of Hawaii before they achieved statehood, he would be a native-born citizen of the U.S.

My birth record is sealed. So is the one for my wife and my children.

Here's the kicker that will really drive you crazy. If he had been born in a foreign country, had his birth registered with the U.S. Embassy or Consulate and been issued a FS-245 form instead of the standard birth certificate, he would be a native-born U.S. citizen.

When baseball season gets started again, tune in to a Chicago Cubs game. You will see an outfielder and a first baseman playing for the Cubs. Both born in Japan. Both had their births registered with the embassy or consulate. Both are native-born U.S. citizens. They are Milton Bradley and Derek Lee.
2009-01-10 20:39:07 UTC
Well, he's not OK for the Presidency, citizenship-wise, even if he was born in Hawaii. Because his father was a Kenyan citizen and not an American citizen, Obama isn't a 'natural born citizen'.



To be eligible to serve as the President of the United States, the person must be a 'natural born citizen' (or a citizen at the time of the adoption of the constitution) per Article 2 Section 1 of the US Constitution. http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.articleii.html

EVERY President has been a natural born citizen (born on US soil to two US citizen parents), or a citizen at the time the constitution was adopted.



A regular 'citizen' of the US is a citizen at birth by being born on US soil (Jus soli) or by being born to one or two US citizen parents (Jus sanguinis).US citizenship can be acquired by naturalization by a non-citizen after birth.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86755.pdf



A US 'natural born citizen' is a person born on US soil to two US citizen parents.

See PERKINS V. ELG - http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=307&invol=325

The Supreme Court case of PERKINS v. ELG defined a natural born citizen as a person who was born on US soil to two US citizen parents. It was also defined the same way in MINOR v. HAPPERSETT http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=88&invol=162



Mr. Barack H. Obama II was born to a US citizen mother and a Kenyan citizen father and was reportedly born on US soil in the state of Hawaii. He is a 'citizen'. BUT - Since one of his parents was not a US citizen, Obama is not a 'natural-born citizen' and is therefore not qualified for the office of President of the United States.
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2016-05-26 14:54:29 UTC
You moron every time they issue a copy of a birth record (and that's what both of those are, COPIES, neither is an actual birth record) they can use a different form. The one you say is authentic is a negative of a photo copy. You moron.
Deb S (SFECU) pray4revival
2009-01-10 10:20:44 UTC
No it is not you!

It is him and all the secrecy. He has spent over a million dollars fighting all the lawsuits that want him to produce the birth certificate that proves he is eligible to be President. That looks suspicious on his part.

If the truth comes out that he is not eligible then we will have a national crisis on our hands. This is serious.
2009-01-10 09:11:04 UTC
It's you.



ALL birth certificates are sealed. Only the person and immediate family can have it. Do you really want anyone to have access to your basic information so that your identity can be compromised?



Hawaiian state officials have came forward to say Obama is legitimate. Are they lying? The local newspaper even has the birth announcement in their archives. Are you saying someone went in an charged the archive?
2009-01-10 09:12:26 UTC
It's you.



ALL birth certificates are sealed. Only the person and immediate family can have it. Do you really want anyone to have access to your basic information so that your identity can be compromised?



Hawaiian state officials have came forward to say Obama is legitimate. Are they lying? The local newspaper even has the birth announcement in their archives. Are you saying someone went in and changed the archive?
2009-01-10 09:09:47 UTC
It's you.



ALL birth certificates are sealed. Only the person and immediate family can have it. Do you really want anyone to have access to your basic information so that your identity can be compromised?



Hawaiian state officials have came forward to say Obama is legitimate. Are they lying? The local newspaper even has the birth announcement in their archives. Are you saying someone went in and changed the archive?



Edit: Great minds think alike....or am I stuttering?
swordofthespirit2
2009-01-10 09:13:22 UTC
All Hawaii will attest to is that they have a live birth in the case of Barack Hussein Obama. Does not say he was born in Hawaii.
2009-01-10 09:44:52 UTC
Let go of your hate, he has already proven where he was born.
2009-01-10 09:31:57 UTC
the british are coming ,the british are coming...!!!!! the year was,??where we our forefather born?
2009-01-10 09:38:43 UTC
You are NOT alone!!!


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