Germany and France out of recession, how many more months will the UK have to suffer?

Question

World markets encouraged by surprise growth in Europe's biggest economies.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/aug/13/germany-france-emerge-recession

Answer 1

The economy miracle of the UK was fake , a mirage (1997-2007), it was based on natural ressources, real market a,d finance.

The UK killed its own industry under Tatcher, "let them die" was her motto.

The UK became more wealthy than France Italy and Germany because its economy was built on big bubble.



Do you know the amount for saving all the UK banks something like 1500 billion £ and the british are the most in debt europeans, they don' t save much, their healthcare primary education and transport are §%/+

I hope that this growth won' t benefit the UK, the brit have been bragging and lecturing about their "great economy" for years and years.



Moreover the UK is nothing but a trojan horse in the EU preventing it from becoming a world power and always favoring and following the US instead of Europe.

The UK is nothing but the US poodle , look how easily it was for you to be engaged in the Iraq war, and the only country for Turkey in the EU because your american master told you to do so.

Real Europe Germany France and Italy



@FOXY sorry if am not pleasant with you but you are an idiot, the UK has deputees in the european parlement , they can say whatever they want about the EU (economy , foreign policy) they vote with other europeans. Now tell me how important is the UK in the US institutions , how many representatives and deputees have you there ?

Also the day the EU will cut free trade off with the UK, I think the amount of money you said will be a drop in the ocean



@FOXY 2 Mea Culpa I should not have called you an idiot, but I guess it is not better than your racist slurs against french people.

Ok I recognize that the UK is nowadays the greatest country in Europe and on earth, everybody is jealous envious of your economy, your healthcare system, your banks, your primary education, your railway system, your cars and planes, your tasty food and culture, your quality of life , your human developement index.

In fact I was denied the pleasure to live in the UK, that is why I am so bitter.

In Germany and France we thank the brits everyday because without their money we could not live.

How lucky we are to live close to such a powerful country !

Hopefullly you will stay in the EU so we can live on welfare thanks to you !

Now leave me I have to pray in front of an Union Jack flag.

Answer 2

WELL NOW! Hang on a sec, I was under the impression that we were infact in the EU. Therefore, 'any' recovery OR loss that happens within the confines of the EU should be shared out. You know, like when you say 'a problem shared is a problem halved'. Oh, stupid dumb me, how could I ever expect anyone from France or Germany to bale us lot out? It is every man for himself, and it always will be despite any so-called United States of Europe. The person that scalds Britain as being a trojan horse (above in an earlier answer) knows only too well that when the boot is on the other foot and we leave the EU and withdraw our daily 40 million pounds a day to it, the EU will suffer more than it ever has done financially. Plain fact is, that 40 million pound EVERY day in EU subscriptions is crippling Great Britain. Maybe we need to leave the EU sooner rather than later and start our recovery earlier still.



Incidentally, Britain's recovery was always said by the experts that it would take much longer than all the other G20 countries because of the nature of our debt and the fact that our economy is all linked to the city, and the city is not doing that well right now.



TONY, did you suggest that you'd like us to be the EU's poodle instead? Personally, I believe we should be our own nation. We managed for quite a few centuries before okay without you lot.



TONY.... I am entitled to my 'opinion' you know as you are yours, but thanks for calling me an idiot. That's the kind of retort that Britain expects from the rest of the European Gestapo that dictates more than 75% of all our stupid laws now coming into Great Britain from looney Euroland. Many of our representative MEP's in the EU parliament elected by us are not there to 'agree' with your ridiculous ideals, they are there to wreck them! That's why we put them there, and the movement is growing fast. We, the British people were never even asked if we wanted to join your little club, that drains our countries resources like leeches. A free trade agreement is all we ever really wanted, but you now flood our job market and tell us how to ruin our own country. We will trade with you yes! Just don't expect to RULE us - idiot!

Answer 3

Wait a minute, you can't deride France and Germany for being 'socialist' countries and then compare their governments to the US when it suits your argument - aren't you tired of being a hypocrite? Everyone knows that your typical spin of the facts carries no actual weight in a debate or argument - which is why Repubs/Conservatives just start yelling or ranting like maniacs.

Answer 4

Oh no! not quoting the guardian again are we? Answerer tony is right there was no economic miracle it was all smoke and mirrors with lax oversight and fraud thrown in. BA is nearly £3Bn in debt, Vodaphone several billion in debt as is BT and most "major " british companies outside the petroleum and drugs sectors they haven't actually made a profit for years, Strangely Oxfam appear to have £200 million in the bank in cash.

Investment has tanked, pensions are down the drain and unemployment is soaring, so no recovery for ten to fifteen years and even then we will not be able to accept the figures at face value.



Thatcher and Major sold off our North sea oil overseas so they could spend more so that's gone and natural gas is soaring in price.

Answer 5

Good old Foxy bang on target again. Where do they get people like Tony from ? I think the best thing for France and Germany to do is remember the old saying,'Don't count your chickens until they hatch' and their chicks are a long way from hatching.I will say however that without the dead weight of Brown the Clown they are better placed financially than we are to come out of the recession.

Answer 6

the uk economy is quite different from france and germany. one they are in the eurozone so they can help each more effectively since they share the same currency. 2 germany has a very large industrial sector and france has a large public sector however small banking sectors. although they were hit when the credit crunch occurred they had a small finiance sector so did not bear the brunt as badly. however the uk has a massive finiance sector thats why the uk will take longer to pull itself out of the recession. as much as i hate to say this we need the banks more than ever to make a profit if the uk want to pull out of the recession

Answer 7

As long as the government refuses to help firms that are a viable business and forcing them to close thus putting good workforce on the streets, but all our government wants to do is sell off every thing and let the foreigners get it for cheap, when they start being protectionist like the other countries and start thing of US first and the others after, I can't remember a government that was so hell bent on destroying our once wonderful country.

Answer 8

You've a while yet before the upturn, labour reckon you need another 12 million immigrants to turn things around, theres a delivery next week watch labour clamber all over themselves not to sign for it.

Answer 9

Interestingly, Germany is very similar to the UK in terms of:

- population density,

- immigrants as a percentage of the overall population,

- number of Muslims as a percentage of the overall population



and it has a higher percentage of refugees and asylum seekers.



Yet somehow, they are weren't so badly hit by the recession and are turning things around much quicker.



Hey, guess what? Maybe foreigners aren't the problem after all.

Answer 10

Well I am not sure but think, they are at the moment but they could still fall again. We are in my opinion in for a long ride. I mean we could one day be out if in then slip back because they are only 0.3% out of it, so not far to fall.

Answer 11

Until the next election. Role on!

Answer 12

The UK will suffer all the while Brown and his cronies are in power.

Answer 13

As long as we keep getting people who will employ illegal immigrants