Question:
Should the goverment start mandating forced euthinasia of the elderly and terminally ill?
Raj Faneen
2007-09-27 09:38:15 UTC
The earth is severly overpopulated. People over 65 are a drain on society. Some take jobs that would be better filled by younger workers who have more time left to be in the workforce. Older people have more health problems and are straining the health care system along with the terminally ill. Why should these people be allowed such services when they are so close to death and less productive to society anyway?
34 answers:
jlcaughlan
2007-09-27 09:44:09 UTC
Are you joking? You think your parents and grandparents should be put to death because they are 65 years old? I wonder how you are going to feel when you are 64. Sounds to me someone has a little growing up to do or needs to gain some heart and empathy.



Now on a more practical note I do not feel terminally ill patience should have to suffer for long periods of time but I am not sure of the answer. I suppose it should be very individual and up to the family.
2007-10-02 20:03:15 UTC
Forget that idea of mandating forced euthanasia. You forget you will someday reach that part of your life. The terminally ill that have machines helping them live at the expenses of the family or state should be allowed to pass, the only ones making money are the doctors and hospitals. The job market isn't being overtaken by people over 65, what you can see is the people over 65 years that because of the cost of living in the United States and supporting everyone coming into US looking for us to support them, have to go out and work again.

The health care system isn't being strained by our older people, but by lazy no good non working young people, and also people that are coming into the United States with their health problems. You forget it was the old timers that were able to work and maintain what we have today. It becomes a problem when free loaders and people take advantage of a health system that they don't want to help maintain by working for benefits.
ryladie99
2007-09-27 09:50:00 UTC
Wow I am so shocked about your true statement and I am 50 plus. In my opinion, they are value to society and be love by me.

However, Health care in America is the issue and we need to pass a law otherwise we will have more problem. By the way, some of our elderly do not save in the past and they earn less. Now we have more from the Baby Bloomers and I urge you to do a positive solution for the Health care problem. I see your pain and it does impact on everybody when you see the elderly takes more than 8 to 9 prescription pill every day. Who is footing his or her bill? It is a National Question that need to educate our Public. I am old but do not have any Health problem and I save enough to retire 5 years from now. Sorry I have to tell my story as well.
2007-10-04 15:57:04 UTC
EXCUSE ME!!! There are lots of us over sixty five who are not only not taking jobs away from youngsters but who are spending money like drunken sailors keeping this economy afloat. But your type never mean the ones of us who have money, do you!



Having said as much, I do advocate the legalization of death by personal choice (Just not my death; your choice). I'd much rather go while I'm still having fun. And despite your misconception of my generation, I have a real aversion to becoming a burden, or of spending my money keeping me alive like a carrot is alive. There's a certain young person in my life whom I want to leave nicely well off as an investment in the future. So if that means going in fifteen years rather than twenty-five years, they can pull the plug on me when I can't think or feel anymore. (Yes, I have a living will to that effect!)
Easy B Me II
2007-09-27 09:44:47 UTC
J.R.R. Tolkein's Silmarillion includes the ancient history of the elves and the beginning of men. One story involves descendants (the Numenarians) of the "elf friends" and their fall from grace. I find the story to be very timely.



The elf friends were rewarded by the gods for their bravery in the war against Morgoth (an evil god). After the chaining of Morgoth the gods gave the elf friends thier own island seperate from middle earth and valinor (the home of the gods), but closer to valinor. The people called themselves the Numenor. The Numenarians grew wise and strong and had many years of peace until they began to want the deathless life that the gods and the elves enjoyed in Valinor.



This envy drove the Numenarians to fear death and cling to life until bereft of all their faculties. Eventually the Numenarians went to war with the gods over this and most were destroyed.



Some would argue that this story reinforces the arguement for euthinasia, but it really doesn't. The pride of the Numenarians were their downfall. The sense of entitlement over thier existance was the source of their pride. The Numenarians were jealous and angry with their gods over the issue of their mortality, but their gods were unable to change the fact that men die.



We have set ourselves up as gods, deciding who lives and who dies. We will all die, but the one who gave us life should choose when that end is to come.
Chief
2007-09-27 09:43:23 UTC
Because they are human beings just like you and I. this is a ridiculous question. Let's just have the government take away peoples rights to live.



The jobs the elderly are given, they apply for and someone hires them. The employer can choose someone else if they want. They are not depriving anyone of jobs.



In fact most elderly are retired and are working to supplement their lack of social security money.



Elderly convey knowledge and are wise. People are a drain all over the globe, not just elderly and disabled. How about the government executes your grandparents since they are old?
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2015-06-24 07:38:56 UTC
When my mother and father were live they lived in fear of what the doctors might do next at times. A few days before my mother died she told me they were trying to kill her when she's in the nursing home. The day she died I was there and the nurses were hovering over her while I was outside smoking a cigarette when I came in she was totally sleep. She died that day. The day my father died I had called hospic I had called Hospice to come in because he was sick that winter night. My father had colon cancer my mother had lung cancer. The nurse from Hospice had a special box that they had sent me of medicine in the refrigerator. She told me to give him the medicine once every 8 hours or so like that. My father died that night. I think the government has already implemented euthanasia. I think that they consider the cost of care for the seniors and it is costly to keep somebody alive. I don't think they do it automatically but I believe it when they see somebody going down fast or slow
2007-09-27 10:01:37 UTC
I'm sure this question is just set to wind people up. But I'm gonna answer anyway.



The subject of euthanasia is a complicated one. Personally I'm for it. It's very hard to watch someone for whom there is no hope just fade away, often in terrible pain and indignity. But it needs to be regulated carefully and with consent being given with the person of sane mind at the time. If that makes any sense..(My apologies if it doesn't lol....I'm working long weird hours at the moment)

As for your other comments k*obhead, I hope you live to a right OLD AGE...and someone remembers your current attitude to the older generation. I hope they leave you to rot!



These older people have ALREADY made their valuable contribution to society. They've payed their taxes and fought wars etc for ungrateful sods like you and they are entitled to be cared for in their old age.
Lacy
2007-09-27 09:54:15 UTC
Gee, has it never occurred to you that if you're lucky, and with your attitude you're not, you may live to be 65. If I'm still here I would love to be the one to force euthanasia on you. After all, at 65 you'll be a useless blob of a pathetic, disease ridden, non-productive person in an over populated world.
2007-09-27 09:53:53 UTC
Yes, definately. I totally agree. But why stop there? Lets top anyone who can not, or has no prospect of ever being able to wipe thier own bum. What possible use to society is anyone who needs a helper to wipe thier ****? None at all (I'll give you Stephen Hawkins, but not for long eh?) and speaking for myself - Swich me off/Pump me full of drugs and put me out of my suffering if I cant wipe my own ****! I struggle to see why we as a society spend so much money, time and effort keeping alive people who have no hope of ever being able to look after themselves. If they were animals we'd put them down because it would be kinder. I know this seems heartless but if it were down to me I'd opt for the Sparten method, leave all the new borns on the mountain over night, if they survive the night then great. If not, that's survival of the fittest. The way good old mother nature intended.
SavageLettuce
2007-09-27 09:44:19 UTC
One would debate that YOU are not productive to society w/ ideas like that. Morons like you are the real drain.



Do the overpopulated world a favor and sterilize yourself so the stupidity doesn't breed. Or drink the Kool-Aid. Society won't miss you.
benvanzile
2007-09-27 09:45:43 UTC
I've kind of felt the same way as you, but it pushes a line. You know, I mean technically when people lose their teeth they would die in nature. However, there are lots of younger people who are way more useless than elderly people I know. Picking an arbitrary date makes us as a people callused to death. It's a tough call. I definitely think we shouldn't keep "vegetables" alive. I also think that we shouldn't use stem cells to create organs because people could essentially double their lifespans. Also, it could create a caste system, where the rich could afford all new organs and the poor die. Something needs done here in America. A child tax credit like in China, perhaps?
2007-09-27 16:45:12 UTC
Soylent Green is made of people? But it tastes so much like buttery cream of wheat with potted meat or spam mixed in! If I would have known it was made of people, I would have been molding it into images of passed away loved ones and spraying it with a nice plasticine coating. We could then sit and talk and talk for HOURS! We would laugh and we would cry. Who knows, right?



I would take my plastic coated ground meat caricature of grandma out shopping, to catch butterflies....heck we'd probably play some Xbox together.



---Because that's how I like to roll.
Elana
2007-09-27 09:41:13 UTC
Anyone for "Soilent Green"? Lets hear it for recycling people!



First off, there are lots of other ways to control overpopulation than just killing people off at a particular age. For instance ... oh I don't know ... how about BIRTH CONTROL?



Geez.



Secondly, our elders are our history and our society's core personality. They form a chronically underused part of the maturation process for younger people, and that we don't take advantage of it causes us to suffer immensely.



Thirdly, I know many 65 year olds who are healthier than your average 40 year old. If you really wanted to reduce the strain on society, you would make your cut-off point based on performance (health) rather than age.



And finally, when you consider the median age of the Federal politician is pretty close to your age of execution ... it ain't going to happen. I suppose it would be the ultimate form of a "term limit."
netjr
2007-09-27 09:41:11 UTC
Pretty sad is the day we celebrate a persons 65th birthday with a shot to kill them.



Individuals over 65 that take personal responsibility for their lives and save for retirement and plan ahead are not a drain on society but a sincere benefit to it with knowledge, respect and we owe them more then they'll ever take.
canam
2007-09-27 09:43:46 UTC
You idiot. Do you know how many people over 65 work? What might be a better way to reduce the population is to put people like you to rest early.
heyjesus90
2007-10-05 08:36:44 UTC
I'm glad that you think that people over 65 are a drain on society so let's do that lets kill all my grandparents JERK!
stick man
2007-09-27 09:43:41 UTC
Should the government mandate euthenizing you because you are foolish youth who has no concept of life or what he is talking about? In your case I would sugest that your mother have a retroactive abortion. for a dose of common sense, listen to ttb.org.
2007-09-27 09:42:35 UTC
This question is disgusting..



Respect your elders, many of them have fought wars and made the country how it is today.



Why not just cull any one that leaves school without a decent education instead, or people with no respect for others.
2007-09-27 09:42:29 UTC
I would suggest to you that the world start forcing mandated euthanasia of anyone caught playing video games, smoking pot or caught chatting on Yahoo with more than one ID.



Oh, and forcing mandated sterilization of males OR females under the age of 60. Older people think more clearly, unbeknownst to you.
2007-09-27 09:56:59 UTC
No, but euthanasia of people suggesting such measures would be a good start!
doshiealan
2007-09-27 09:51:40 UTC
Yes. Then you could kill all the insane and the crippled, followed by homosexuals and hoboes, and the blacks, and the semites, and the mormons and the quakers.......why don't you just kill everyone, and save the planet from mankind.
specialtygasket
2007-09-27 09:48:21 UTC
You really got some people riled up with this one. The government shouldn't force anything. The practical solution would be to get rid of the welfare/nanny state that we live in, then you wouldn't have to pay for their services.
megz
2007-09-27 09:42:22 UTC
No.. by the way goverment forcing euthinasia is an oxy moran
2007-09-27 09:47:51 UTC
yes,the planet IS a busy place, but this does not mean that



ppl who are older do NOT have in some manner have



anything left...and just how sick do you mean?
Kari B
2007-09-27 09:43:10 UTC
That's horrible. I don't want my parents and grandparents to be killed because they're old. They're well loved and there's more to life than what your talking about here.
2007-09-27 11:05:21 UTC
Here is the answer, the only answer to overpopulation:



http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070723/
2007-09-27 09:44:40 UTC
Hmmmm....Sound alot like Nazi germany

Where would you stop Thin people ,fat people,tall people dark people.....maybe even you!
Highland
2007-09-27 09:41:44 UTC
That is totally sick to even think about. totally EVIL.
2007-09-27 09:41:22 UTC
The earth is overpopulated????



Since when?



Apparently you've never been to Maine....
2007-09-27 09:41:35 UTC
troll
~cmd~
2007-09-27 09:42:13 UTC
evil disney indeed.
Mike W
2007-09-27 10:40:25 UTC
No.
2007-09-27 09:43:35 UTC
NO THAT IS MURDER STILL


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