Why Do Capitalist and Communist Governments Dont Get Along?

Question

Well im a communist,and i dont have anything against capitalists.The funny thing is now,ppl from countries like the U.S say terrible things about China ( Too bad i couldnt find wat the chinese said back).However,It doesnt actually mean they are evil,and i found nothing about communism being Evil.I wont claim it to be Evil,but i wont claim capitalism to be Evil either,no types of governments are Evil,Its jus that they are trying to help their ppl with a way to run the government safely and perfectly...but idk y there's a reason to hate each other...y wont they get along?

Please,No immature answers,and No Lying.

Answer 1

There are three answers to your question, which you have to combine to understand why capitalist and communist governments have not gotten along historically.



1 - As ideologies, capitalism and communism are opposites. Communism, as based on the writings of Marx and Engels, advocates control of the modes of production (ie. factories) by the workers instead of the managers, thus ensuring that everyone would be equal. Capitalism believes that greed is inherent in human nature, and so the only way that people will produce enough goods for everyone to have some is if producing goods gets you more stuff for yourself.



2 - No government has ever been perfectly communist or perfectly capitalist. Countries that attempt to set up communist governments figured out that people need time to get used to communism and set up dictatorships to shepherd them though that time. Unfortunately, once in power, communist dictators have never wanted to give up that power and have never attempted to move their countries towards the communist ideal of government by the people alone. Capitalist governments aren't purely capitalist either; today's capitalist governments interfere in the market in a number of ways. They interfere by removing some services from the market and providing them to the public without making a profit on them - examples include the police, public schools, and maintaining roads. They also interfere by regulating the services that corporations provide to make sure that businesses don't lie or cheat consumers - examples include the forcing companies to put ingredients labels on food products, writing building codes to make sure that houses are safe to live in, and writing contract laws to make sure that both sides of an agreement uphold their promises.



3 - Many nominally communist and capitalist countries don't get along for reasons completely separate from their governing ideologies. In most cases, the difference in ideology only gives governments an excuse to fight each other. For example, after World War II, the Soviet Union and the United States were the only two major powers left standing on their own. The Soviet Union had been invaded through Eastern Europe twice in the past thirty years and wanted a buffer zone to make sure it didn't happen again, while the United States needed the economies in Western Europe to get going again so that Europeans could buy American products and keep the United States economy going strong. These two national interests, not their governing ideologies, are the reason why the USA and the USSR became mired in the Cold War. The difference between communism and capitalism just made it harder for politicians to see that national interests were behind the conflict.



The same thing is going on with China right now. The Chinese have a growing economy that is increasingly dominating important sectors of the global economy, making some American businessmen feel like their prosperity might be slipping away. There are other national interests as well, separate from governing ideology, that are making China and the USA seem so angry at each other. The fact that the Chinese are supposedly communist and the Americans are supposedly capitalist only makes people feel more hostile about the other. In the past, national interest has overcome this hostility - like when Nixon opened trade and diplomatic ties with communist China in the 1970s in order to gain an ally against the Soviet Union.



So, the answer is - there is nothing about communism and capitalism that makes them inherently unable to get along. But the differences in values and life style between communist and capitalist countries does mean that, when their national interests conflict, people on both sides find it easier to hate the other.

Answer 2

You really need to understand how Communism has worked out in practice. It's a wonderful idea but unfortunately it always runs up against human nature, because Communism only really works if everyone has the right mindset to want to make it work, but that never happens. So what always happens in practice is that you end up with a totalitarian dictatorship, and especially if it's of the Soviet Union kind, it tries to convert other countries to it by fair means or foul. Add to that, that the USA is a very religious country and very prone to throw accusations of evil about, and you get the Cold War that we had for many years until the collapse of the Soviet Union 20 years ago.



The funny thing to me is that so much of the USA claims to live by the bible - and in the book of Acts it describes the early Christians "living together and having everything in common" which is pretty much Communist in the best sense, isn't it?



Capitalism just best fits the reality of how people are. I've visited Communist countries in eastern Europe when they still existed and it really wasn't nice.



There's an interesting debate to be had actually about whether "evil" or "good" have any meaning. Somebody has to define what they are, and they only really make sense within the context of a religion. I'm not sure that those words mean anything - there's just what works and what doesn't, and unfortunately, because of the way people are, Communism doesn't. The only countries that still have it are where the government is powerful enough to suppress any rebellion, or where the national culture is to submit to authority and not protest.

Answer 3

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Answer 4

In communism everyone is equal and there aren't classes. in america, a capitalist country, there is the american dream. Which is starting out in the dirt and then becoming a small business owner, or doctor, or something that makes a lot of money. Capitalist society is all about what you have and money. In communist countries everyone is the same, meaning no american dreams and the upper and middle classes will be brought down to the lower class so that everyone is the same.

Answer 5

Communism, as written by Marx and Engels, was formed as a reaction to capitalism. They thought that the working class would riot against the rich and then communism would form. Therefore, communism is pitted against capitalism in its earliest form. Communism does not encourage for-profit and goes against capitalist values of profit and individualism. Communism is when the collective takes priority over the self in terms of a social consciousness.

Answer 6

we had no problem with stalin in ww2 until he enforced his way of life on other countries, not by talking but with physical force and fear. china and don't get me wrong i really like the chinese immigrants i have met, is using force and fear to retain power over its people.

they have welcomed many capitalist businesses but remain in control of them.

capitalist have long felt that every man controls his own destiny and this has been proven in the usa. we have accepted many that wanted the freedom to explore their own destiny and we gave it to them. so the answer is not the people but the governments we dislike. the use of fear and retaliation is something most usa citizens have never experienced first hand but have all met others that have come here that have. communist governments do not call for dictators but that seems to be what they all have. that is our beef with them.

Answer 7

With Capitalism and Communism you have two different economic systems



Capitalism - Demand Economy

Communism - Command Economy

Answer 8

Because of the cold war we've been taught that Communism is always evil. It's much more complicated than that, of course, but most people don't both to think about it.

Answer 9

Dude.

Seriously.



You need to sue your third grade English teacher for malpractice.

Answer 10

In these discussions it is very important to absolutely distinguish between forms of governments and forms of economies.



Governments are either democratic, republican, autocratic,monoarchies, totalitarian, oligarchical, kingdoms etc, these are different in how people get into office or power, and whether the masses have any say it in or not.



Economies are a whole different subject ranging from capitalisms, socialism, fascism, and communism. These have to do with who owns the means of production, takes the investment risk, and reaps the investment rewards to then invest again. The type of economy determines who makes the basic decisions of what to make, how much to charge for it, where to get the investment resources and who to sell it to, and who gets to own and control the profits of these investment cycles.

America is a complicated quilt work of capitalism, socialism, and communism, every nuclear family is a communism in fact. But it becomes capitalistic when local families compete with each other and with the rest of the world forming that web of small to huge businesses.



Communism depends upon a central planning committee to make all the decisions of consumption and production, while capitalism distributes the planning to each and every business owner.



communism says everyone is worth the same, regardless of what they produce or how good they are at it, or how scarce their talents. The brain surgeon is paid his 1800 calories a day just as the ditch digger.

Communism asks that people love their neighbor as themselves, as a mother might love its own child, and thus to share its profits amongst its neighbors as a father and mother share the profits of their work with their children. The problem with this is that mothers and fathers are selfless by nature when it comes to their own children but not when it comes to the children of others. The gene system is trying to propagate itself, not everyone else's maybe to its own detriment. So eventually the only way to make people love their neighbor is at the point of a gun, which is why communism is generally seen with totalitarian governments.



In a communism no one has to prove themselves worthy of survival or food, everyone has to take you in and feed you regardless of your capacities for production. In a capitalism everyone has to prove their worth of survival by actuallly producting more than they consume and having some left over to sow and read again.



Communism turns the whole place into a state mandated charity or welfare state, if you need it, you got it, but if you produce in excess of what you need it goes to everyone else too. That means you carry to weight of everyone else's solvenly existence on your back. Capitalism provides people often with tremendous gains and thus margin for survival and the ability to redistribute their wealth as they see fit. The downside is if you fail in your investments there is no social net to take care of you.



None of the above answers why commies and piggies hate each other, it could be because the commies are jealous of the piggies because the piggies do better for the affluent masses, but the commies don't have the horrendous dynamic range between abject poor and wealthy because everyone ends up middle poor but surviving.



The commies also depend on a few centrally planned bureaucrats to make the economic decisions, so all products are one and the same and all done poorly, because people are payed regardless of whether they excel in their work and producing a return on investment or not.



The piggies like to take their profits for themselves and reinvest them themselves and their OWN loved ones, meaning gentically close. So that might be the reason the piggies hate the commies.

If I do the work, the result is mine, not yours. But the piggies have to take responsibility when they fail. The commies can't fail, because they get paid regardless of the quality of their work, and their lives are not on the line if their centrally planned investments do not pan out, the central planner will be shot, not the worker. So there is a lot of physical security in knowing your survival is not up to you.



Since both sides seem think they should own the world, the piggies fear being raped of their justly won rewards to reinvest them again, and commies seems to fear having to actually produce something of daily worth otherwise be filtered out by darwinian selection. Communism is a kind of protection racket against being filtered out by darwininan selection as everyone is guaranteed a life regardless of their ability to produce. The capitalists seem to thrive on the threat to their lives that their survival incompetencies provide them, and since darwinian selection DOES filter out the capitalist losers unltimately, they die and starve to death, those capitalists that are left standing to breed have strong survival skills that are passed onto their children generation after generation.



So I would bet that communisms and capitalisms are both solutions to the final death of darwinian selection based on failure to produce more than you consume.



Thus there is an upside and a downside to both because both provide something and cost something.



For the commie, they are provided survival SECURITY no matter how inbred, incompetent, or stupid they are. And since there is no darwinian

selection chosing the able from the unable, they tend to get more unable over time, but they continue to survive off the insurance everyone else provides for them.



The piggies don't want mere survival at any cost, they want affluent survival which is can only be created through being responsible for your own sow and reap cycles and being allowed to keep the profits to reap and sow again. The down side is if the piggie fails, he gets dies from starvation, farms fail etc, and there is no welfare state to keep him going

inspite of his survival incompetencies.



Each side, the commies and the piggies eye the other's upside, security or affluence, and want it for themselves and are willing to take it by force, but neither side seems to realize they can't have both.



Mediocrity might be able to make you live forever, but affluence will make you WANT to live for a while :)



Homer