Question:
Why allow the government to "educate" your kids? That just gives them a chance to pound propaganda into them
anonymous
2007-06-14 22:02:07 UTC
We give the government WAY TOO MUCH POWER; and if you don't realize this now, you will in the not-too-distant future.
Fourteen answers:
Karma
2007-06-14 22:16:09 UTC
If I ever have children, they'll be attending private schools. Here's the public leftist education system:



Our liberal schools are teaching our children that it's not ok to pray to God in class, and that they should be ashamed if they do so because it offends everyone else.



The same schools teach them that they don't have to respect the flag by saying the pledge of allegiance. If they do get to say it, it's the watered down version that doesn't include "One nation, under God."



The same schools that are teaching teenagers that it's ok if they make a mistake with contraception, just take a morning after pill or have an abortion.



The same schools that are taking childhood away from our children more and more everyday, by not allowing Christmas parties and having to call it a "merry tree."



The same schools that call children services if they find out you spank your children.



The same schools that take away privileges if they do not participate in "voluntary" drug testing. If something is being taken away, that's punishment, and doesn't make it voluntary does it.



The same schools that have been so over-zealous in making things equal, that teams that are on a winning streak get banned from further competitions - to "give others a chance." Whatever happened to healthy competition.



The same schools that teach socialism to be a good thing.
anonymous
2007-06-15 05:30:45 UTC
I have to go with Krollohare on this. I have a kid. I'm lucky, she's smart and can see the bigger picture. But through her I meet lots and lots of other teenage kids. Basically its ipods and gangstas, or tv and celebs all the way. Now maybe the government really wants kids to be distracted and removed from reality... but not many of the kids I talk to have much of an opinion about anything, and most of them kind of really hate the government and Bush and the war, and they know their futures are being sold out by some greedy business guys behind the scenes. The kids seem smarter about this than the adults I meet.



And I don't think the government wants them to be wise to any of that.



So basically I think the culture of celeb crime and cool indifference trumps any of the crap the government's trying to pump into their little minds.



And the schools are lucky if they can connect with the kids at all...
♥zene purrs♥
2007-06-15 18:05:51 UTC
"Train your mind to test every thought, ideology, train of reasoning, and claim to truth. There is no justice when even a single voice goes unheard." (1 Thessalonians 5:21, 1 John 4:1-3, John 14:26, John 16:26, Revelation 12:10, Proverbs 14:15, Proverbs 18:13)



Online source: on the front cover of the book:



"Deschooling Society" by Ivan Illich online here:

http://reactor-core.org/deschooling.html
?
2007-06-15 22:22:17 UTC
i understand what you are trying to say, but i am anti-us gov't and i send my children to public school...i would go as far as to say that i am an extreme radical...i send my children, so they may be around diversity and their peers, meaning, the children in our community...rather than the select few that i am choosing for them...if we want change, we have to submerge ourselves within the community that believes differently....my son has a positive impact on his peers and thought processes....he disdains cop like teaching styles and together, we are working to change the way the school system functions...i tried homeschooling, and found that he was not experiencing "real" people, now, he convinces his friends that gangster rap is not cool because of the sexism and racism that the industry produces....he will tell children that he won't listen to sexist music and introduces them to more progressive hip hop....the home is responsible for teaching social responsibility among other things....my children question authority, but do not always defy it within reason...i am also on top of teaching my children what the school doesn't and work on these issues within the school.....how are we supposed to help our society if we keep ourselves locked in our own closet...is that not the same as fleeing to the suburbs?....i laugh in the face of danger and fight when i need to...my children are learning to do the same....i might also add, that the school system works for us, not the other way around, if the job is unsatisfactory, it is up to us to promote the change
anonymous
2007-06-15 09:09:25 UTC
What went wrong out there was just blunders and slip-ups with human errors created back in the past being exposed with time after the mystery of us-911.

At that time no one even no about the blunders.

The blunders was only expose after us-911.

Only knew the faults in 2004.

So there is no one to blame.

Now that we know of the blunders.

We must try and correct it.

Instead of throwing pots and pans at others who don't even know about the mess was created back in the past.

So Iraq is the living examples of the blunders that must be corrected in time before survivors of "Star on 45" with their children in Area 51 and in Shelter 51 leave before hitting their expiry date due.

Otherwise in time all the little ones will be in trouble over the horizon.

Now they knew about the faults.

They should be looking into it and correct it .

Since time is not on our side.

And it is the ruler who is leading in guiding the survival and advancement of living human kind must correct the mess before it is too late.

So much damaged had been done out there.

So read the instruction manual.

And follow accordingly what our creator wanted us to do while we were out here.

That will solve the mess and misery of living human kind world-wide.

The mess is not only back home.

But a major problems world -wide.

That is what the Third wave of Liberation of Freedom without any major conflicts to solve the mess out there.
james w
2007-06-15 05:30:40 UTC
our gov, under our constitution has jurisdiction over 3 things

counterfeiting, es peonage, Nd interstate commerce, and interstate commerce is where they have conned their way and taken over every aspect of our lives, when actually Interstate commerce was intended to keep the states from charging tar riffs to other states or hampering interstate trade etc, but, leave it to our politicians to find a way to interpret things so they have more power, our forefathers did not want the gov,, to have control over us and every state was a independent country to make and enforce it's own laws etc,

But, since our men have all become wossies and won't make a stand for any thing they can do any thing they want, and our people will stand by as sheep and allow it, so we are to blame for this nonsense, if you decide to make a stand let me know I will be by your side.
Guerrilla M
2007-06-15 05:07:22 UTC
I agree with you totally. But with only a few media moguls running Washington through selective coverage, and a globalist puppet of a president, and wimps in congress, expect things to get worse until the people take a stand (via email, letters, votes, etc.).
tttplttttt
2007-06-15 05:19:26 UTC
You are the poster boy for propaganda against the USA.

What would teach them, how to stage a government take-over?
anonymous
2007-06-15 05:47:03 UTC
The Government is not about to put any money or power into the education system. This is just your "Onward Christian Soldier" religious programming you've had forever.
Peace Warrior
2007-06-15 05:24:57 UTC
when the republic is working properly



(before the corporate takeover)



the government is an extension of the people







Why are conservatives megalomaniacs....only concerned with their own benefit, totally lacking a sense of community
scarlettt_ohara
2007-06-15 05:05:32 UTC
You are probably right. Parents should demand more control and follow up with action.
krollohare2
2007-06-15 05:10:24 UTC
No. You give too much credit to the government and teachers.



Nope. Its rap music. They all want to become gangstas. White, black, indian, hispanic, asian. They all wanna be gangstas .....
anonymous
2007-06-15 05:05:07 UTC
So your kids can get a job.
?
2007-06-15 06:52:10 UTC
Beatle drummer Ringo Starr once said that "Everything the government touches turns to crap.”



"We must overcome the fetishism of the alphabet, of the multiplication tables, of grammars, of scales, and of bibliolatry. Iit would be no loss if a child never learned to read."



It is well known if you want your children to have an education they will NOT go to public schools. America is in the process of major dumbing down and if you want your child to have a quality education you do it yourself!



"In our dream, we have limitless resources, and the people yield themselves with perfect docility to our molding hand. The present educational conventions fade from our minds; and, unhampered by tradition, we work our own good will upon a grateful and responsive folk. We shall not try to make these people or any of their children into philosophers or men of learning or science. We are not to raise up from among them authors, orators, poets, or men of letters. We shall not search for embryo great artists, painters, musicians. Nor will we cherish even the humbler ambition to raise up from among them lawyers, doctors, preachers, politicians, statesmen, of whom we now have ample supply." ~ Rockefeller



Sure not all home schooling parents are good at it, but there are many organizations and groups of supportive parents wherever you go. The children get their education just fine. Once a child is out into the schools, they begin to be mind controlled.



The most revolutionary thing a person can do in these times is to marry for GOOD and raise children happily and educate them at home so they stand a chance of learning to think. Do you realize that American educational standards have dropped from brilliant to below average? Here is what is going on!



Education in America has done a fine job. “Despite nearly constant news coverage since the war there began in 2003, 63 percent of Americans aged 18 to 24 failed to correctly locate the country on a map of the Middle East. Seventy percent could not find Iran or Israel. Young Americans don’t seem to have much interest in the world outside of the U.S. Young Americans are so ill-educated, half of them can’t find New York on a map, let alone Iran and Iraq. Many young Americans also lack basic map-reading skills. Told they could escape an approaching hurricane by evacuating to the northwest, only two-thirds could indicate which way northwest is on a map. But it is not simply geography.



Three in ten respondents put the U.S. population between one and two billion (it’s just under 300 million, according the U.S. Census Bureau). Seventy-four percent said English is the most commonly spoken native language in the world (it’s Mandarin Chinese). Considering the widespread ignorance of the American public, and older Americans are not much better when it comes to finding countries on a map, or for that matter naming their state representative, it makes perfect sense a gaggle of neocons, espousing what amounts to fascist authoritarianism, were able to capture the government, invade two countries in six years, and now threaten to attack a third.



John Taylor Gatto writes, “The once mighty reading Samson of America was led eyeless to Gaza with the rest of the slaves.” Gatto points out a few astounding facts. “Looking back, abundant data exist from states like Connecticut and Massachusetts to show that by 1840 the incidence of complex literacy in the United States was between 93 and 100 percent wherever such a thing mattered,” writes Gatto, a former New York teacher of the year.



According to the Connecticut census of 1840, only one citizen out of every 579 was illiterate and you probably don’t want to know, not really, what people in those days considered literate; it’s too embarrassing. Popular novels of the period give a clue: Last of the Mohicans, published in 1826, sold so well that a contemporary equivalent would have to move 10 million copies to match it.



If you pick up an uncut version you find yourself in a dense thicket of philosophy, history, culture, manners, politics, geography, analysis of human motives and actions, all conveyed in data-rich periodic sentences so formidable only a determined and well-educated reader can handle it nowadays. Yet in 1818 we were a small-farm nation without colleges or universities to speak of. Could those simple folk have had more complex minds than our own?



Dictatorship and despotism thrive when ignorance and stupidity rule societies. “If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be,” Thomas Jefferson declared in 1816. At the time, the populace of America understood the powers of sovereignty are vested in the people and are exercised by the people, not the government.



Americans read and comprehended the Preamble of the Constitution, where specific tasks are assigned to government. In the early 19th century, John Locke’s liberal philosophy of natural rights (universal rights derived from natural law) inspired and guided many Americans. Now most Americans follow the philosophy of Thomas Hobbes, although they have no idea of Hobbes or what he wrote about government.



Hobbes believed that sovereignty was vested in the state. As an example of the Hobbesian state, consider that most Americans believe only the government may grant “civil rights,” when in fact rights are natural, much like the physical laws of nature, and inalienable, that is to say the government cannot take them away.



“When people are … determined to be ignorant, what is the use of printing? When a man is determined that he will not receive information, it is of very little use to lay it before him…. You may talk to him, and print for him, he will still be ignorant…. An ignorant man is easily led astray—he envies the man of enlightened mind, and would sooner vote for an unprincipled blockhead, than an honest and upright man of talents and learning. This kind of system leads to riot and anarchy—anarchy leads to absolute despotism, and ignorance fits the people to bear that despotism.”



We have the corporate media releasing select government propaganda to masses dumbed-down by decades of public education. Many people are functionally illiterate and unable to navigate the written language. Knowing the characters of American Idol is more important than knowing the names of state representatives. In such a fetid environment, tyranny grows quite naturally and unopposed—and thanks to the corporate media and state administered education, most people do not know their country is now a dictatorship, or dangerously close to this condition, and the situation will be nearly complete after Bush and his minions ban the equivalent of the printing press.



Of course, for our neolib rulers and their bankster handlers, widespread ignorance—especially ignorance of geography and, more importantly, ignorance of the concepts of our one-time constitutional republic—is the preferred state of existence, for chattel unenlightened make for better slaves. As George Orwell wrote in his dystopian novel, 1984, the state depends on ignorance and fear to control the masses, who are of course the ultimate enemy



The Rockefellers promoted feminism very heavily. They had several goals as part of this agenda. One was the break up of the family unit. Another was to be able to tax TWO heads of the home. ANOTHER was to get the little ones into programming at an even younger age to change the things they learn and behaviour alteration.



http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1263677258215075609&q=aaron+russo+rockefellers

In this 15 min interview, Aaron Russo speaks of a long conversation he had with Nick Rockefeller. This conversation is most enlightening and covers many aspects of feminism including the chance to get these children younger and younger. It is definitely worth a watch and a listen.



The government has NO INTERESTING in EDUCATING any longer. They are into streamlining things so that people are TRAINED not taught to think or evaluate! They are not being taught the true depths of language but how to only read on the superficial levels.



Clearly, the rulers not only did not want to make "philosophers" of the working class, they wanted them trained so they would not even think for themselves. So they have deliberately devastated the American mind through:



Funding universities and scholars who carry out the devastation of the American public education system in particular and American intelligence in general



Developing programming (brainwashing) strategies using all media types, but especially television



The imposition of miseducation and brainwashing tactics to destroy American citizens' ability to think for themselves



Subjecting American public education to a series of failed experiments, from "look see" reading to the "new math"



Redefining key concepts so that the public school students no longer understand the fundamentals of a democratic society



Turning what is called "education" into nothing but training



"The economic well-being of the nation depends on the presence of a large number of men who are content to labor hard all day long. Because men are naturally lazy they will not work unless forced by necessity to do so. The education of the poor threatens to rob the nation of their productivity. . . Every hour those poor people spend at their books is so much time lost to society. Going to school in comparison to working is idleness." ~ Bernard de Mandeville



Public education must limit itself to training working class students to carry out whatever task they are given to do and to accept the commands of their superiors. I highly recommend reading the link I enclose. It might open a few eyes to what is being done to Americans AND Canadians. Did you know that no one over 24 has ever even HEARD of Tienamen Square in China? They left it out of the books. History has been rewritten for America as well. There are many things no longer taught, so... wake up folks!


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