Question:
Republicans, why do you blame Obama for screwing up the economy?
Tyler
2011-08-05 22:21:32 UTC
First off, no one knows how the economy reacts to govt spending. NO ONE. Oh, everyone has thier own ideas, but nothing's proven or even remotley concrete. Trickle down economics is not a 'fix all' theory and putting all your eggs in one basket is reckless.

Second, Obama hasn't been around long enough for him to have spent enough to kill our economy. Who was in charge 8 years before him? Hmmm.... BUSH and the REPUBLICANS. They made the stupid choice to wage a war AND THEN CUT TAXES. It was stupid and wasteful and irresponsible.

Third, Obama's cut a ton; he's compromised with the Repubs. In terms of legislature that impacts the economy, Repubs have been calling the shots, first to extend the bush tax cuts and recently to deal with the debt ceiling. Boehner was happy with the bill that passed. Obama was not.

The repubs have only cut spending, but have turned their back to raising revenue, which is STUPID. I'm sorry, but the economy is failing because of the republicans. The only fault Obama and the Dems have in this is not being strong enough to fight back. They've compromised and that was not a good move on their part.
Eight answers:
Toney
2011-08-05 22:59:16 UTC
you dims just can't quit blaming someone else for YOUR wrong thinking/doing



the dims have had control of 2 ot the 3 branches of government since 2006, and the libs ain't got the guts to own up to it



the FIRST time in history the US's debt rating has beed downgraded, and it's on the dims watch.



OWN it cowards - don't blame the party that was in control over 5 yrs ago.



these are facts - for the cry babies that want to blame others NOT in power



raising the debt ceiling is NOT the way to balance anything - cutting spending is - just like real Americans have been doing since the dims took control in 2006



if you ain't got it, don't spend it - simple



cut spending - don't eeeeven think about raising taxes - sheesh that's stupid
4rgum3nt
2011-08-06 05:52:04 UTC
This economic Crisis started back in the late 1990s, the "Dot Com" bubble was not properly dealt with (a lot of the bad debt from then was rolled over into the Property bubble etc.), and instead of entrenching measures to manage the economy President Clinton deregulated and pushed for more of the American (and global) economy to be deregulated.



Another thing people are quick to forget is that President Clinton was the one who made Osama Bin Laden public enemy number 1 in 1998 (after the bombings of the US Embassys in Africa). Clinton changed the US relationship with the UN, when he unilaterally withdrew UN forces from Somalia in 1993 (without a vote by the UN security council).

Clinton also bombed Sudan and Afghanistan (and Iraq) that he feared were all making Chemical Weapons for Al-Quaeda.



Bush inherited this secret war on Terrorism, and had to spend some big dollars in an attempt to fix it. But Bush also attempted to cut Federal spending by reforming the Social Security system (quashed by the Congress), and economic building initiatives (like reforming the tax system to be less burdening on companies and self employed that saved Billions of Dollars).



Obama on the other hand, lacks the ability to control Federal establishments. He has once overspent the budget and exceeded the Debt-ceiling (in December 2010) and his poor leadership has resulted in the last minute resolution to the current Debt-ceiling change (causing a crisis and the lowering of the US stock rating from AAA to AA).



You can not simply blame one person, or even a hand full of people for these problems. The bad economy is a product of bad policy, poor foresight and the fact people were happy with the benefits they gained before the current debacle.
Gaijin
2011-08-06 05:54:28 UTC
You really expect them to own up to their part in this mess?Takes two to tango so to speak but they are much better at passing the blame to the other side.



What both sides need to do is create an atmosphere of job building and leave the kindergarten crap to the kids.
Cicada Ooseven
2011-08-06 05:59:22 UTC
Please ignore over simplifications and generalizations rooted in biased bigotries posted all over this website. If you're truly serious in trying to begin to understand the economic warfare being waged against our Western nations and the working class, you can begin by reading Noam Chomsky's books or, for starters, watch one of his many lectures posted on YouTube and decide for yourself. He isn't a light read and everything he reports is rooted in documented fact and not propaganda that caters to either left or right-wing biases. And, The Peoples History Of The United States by Howard Zinn should be required, basic reading for every American who cares about their heritage and history. Below is an article clip from one of our country's leading economic professors and writers on economic polices for the New York Times, generally a conservative paper.

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Paul Krugman Exposes Adam Smith’s Vile Maxim “of the Masters of Mankind”

Paul Krugman runs a superb half column-half blog through the aegis of The New York Times, which he calls "the conscious of a liberal."



He has a pretty hot new post-column on what he calls "the bankruptcy boys." It is worth reading.



He argues, essentially, that deficit hawks in the US, mostly right wing members of the GOP, have used tax cuts in order to fashion a deliberate fiscal crisis. This was used, from Reagan onwards, to compel downsizing in US welfare programs. All sorts of quasi philosophical rationales were used as a shield by the defenders of the bankruptcy boys, such as Nozick's entitlement theory of justice, mutual obligation, reciprocity and so on.



What is at operation here is something very simple, no philosophy is required, namely the supreme operative axiom of neoliberalism; Adam Smith's "the vile maxim of the masters of mankind."



Krugman could have gone much further, though. Take say some pretty strong comments he makes in framing his thesis



...Voters may say that they oppose big government, but the programs that actually dominate federal spending — Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security — are very popular. So how can the public be persuaded to accept large spending cuts?



The conservative answer, which evolved in the late 1970s, would be dubbed “starving the beast” during the Reagan years. The idea — propounded by many members of the conservative intelligentsia, from Alan Greenspan to Irving Kristol — was basically that sympathetic politicians should engage in a game of bait and switch. Rather than proposing unpopular spending cuts, Republicans would push through popular tax cuts, with the deliberate intention of worsening the government’s fiscal position. Spending cuts could then be sold as a necessity rather than a choice, the only way to eliminate an unsustainable budget deficit...



He could have made two very important additional points. I'm sure he is aware of this, but his blog isn't run by the Wordpress server. There is only so much that The New York Times will let you get away with, even if you are Paul Krugman.



Those supply side tax cuts were heavily skewed towards the rich, especially during the era of Bush the Wrecker. So it is tax cuts for the rich that are behind Krugman's manufactured fiscal crisis, a crisis designed to hit social programs for the poor.



That's Adam Smith's "vile maxim of the masters of mankind", i.e. "all for ourselves and nothing for other people", precisely.



It should also be added that certain government programs were exempt from the budget cutters knife. We speak of course of such things as missile defence and military-industrial spending more broadly. These programs have always functioned as a type of "military-keynesianism", what the great US economist Hyman Minsky called a "permanent war economy." This type of spending has functioned as a public subsidy for high technology industry, remember market failure and the positive externality, and so constitutes a form of corporate welfare.



Newt Gingrich's old district illustrated this well. It was very much affluent based. It also received just about the most by way of government subsidy, in the military-keynesian sense, than any other district in the union. Because it was affluent it would not have received the type of spending on social programs typical of a democratic district based upon the urban working poor.



That's all the vile maxim. What is unique to the United States, and key to understanding a lot of what happens in America, is that the vile maxim operates in the world's most open democracy. It's not easy for the masters of mankind to pull off the vile maxim under this structural condition. That's why one observes what is sometimes called "intelligence failure."



The masters have managed to pull the vile maxim off, thus far.



For how much longer, I ask?



Filed under: Left Observer, Neoliberalism
2011-08-06 05:25:55 UTC
i blame all democrats.



the US lost its AAA credit rating for the 1st time since it was given in 1917 under obama.



http://finance.yahoo.com/news/SampP-down…



"Moody's Investor Service and Fitch, had warned during the budget fight that if Congress did not cut SPENDING far enough, the country faced a downgrade."
Spock
2011-08-06 05:25:32 UTC
Please explain how an economy can avoid getting "screwed up" To know how things can go wrong, you must understand how things can go right.
2011-08-06 05:24:33 UTC
Yes, lib, we do. It happened on 0bama's watch.



sound familiar?
Reginald
2011-08-06 05:38:16 UTC
republicans need to drop dead.


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